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An Unusually TV-Focused Post

I was stalking LiveJournals the other day — as I’ve a wont to do — when I came across a post from someone who was essentially making the point that Rose Tyler is the Lana Lang of Doctor Who. The post is of the, “And if you like either… you’re an idiot!” variety, but that aside, it got me to thinking. Because I don’t think that comparison is a valid one, so I was trying to think of a reason as to why (other than, “… but I kinda like Rose!”).

Ultimately, I decided it had to do with the format of the respective shows. See, as far as I can tell there are roughly three categories of serials on TV (let’s have a list; I like lists):

  1. The protagonist show focuses predominantly on the experiences of a single character. Sure, they will and do interact with a cast of regulars, but the only ones who are In On It are the main character and the audience. These shows are pretty rare, and in fact I can only think of two; Dexter and the early parts of Millennium. It’s a more common format in movies and novels, and either way expect to hear a lot of voice-over narration. An anti-hero is a must.
  2. The buddy show ups the ante to two. Supporting characters still float in and out, but the main focus of the show is the two protagonists and how their relationship with each other affects the world around them. Examples include The X-Files, Supernatural and Doctor Who (post-revival especially so, but also certain parts of the old series).
  3. And finally you’ve got the ensemble show. This might be a Power Trio or it might be a whole office block, and even though you probably have a “main” character (but sometimes not) it’s the interactions between all the main cast (read: people in the credits) that makes the show. Torchwood, Buffy, Angel, any show set on a spaceship, police procedurals in the Law & Order mould, daytime soap operas… in fact most shows on TV fall into this category.

Before I get back to Rose, you’ll notice I left Smallville off the list. That’s because I just don’t know where to put it. SV is arguably an ensemble show that plays half as a buddy show (Clark/Lana or Clark/Lex) with a dash of single protagonist (Clark). But I think it pitches itself as ensemble, and the confusion comes mostly from the crappy writing, so that’s where I’m going to put it.

And that’s why I don’t think Rose is analogous to Lana. Lana’s problem in SV is that she dominates space that really should be allocated to developing other relationships; particularly between the Power Trio (Clark, Chloe, Pete) who are, let’s face it, the least powerful Power Trio ever written for TV. Meanwhile, DW — with the occasional exception — is a buddy show. S1 and S2 were all about the Doctor’s relationship with Rose. How she serves as a conduit for battle-scarred Nine to reconnect with “humanity” (used in the loosest sense of the word). I mean, there’s a reason David Tennant talks with Rose’s accent as Ten and not his natural Scottish brogue. The Rose/Doctor doesn’t interfere with the rest of the show because it is the show.1

I think where the comparison is valid, however, is that neither relationship is going to work if you don’t like the characters. The Doctor and Rose “work” for me because I like Rose; sure, she’s a chav, but she’s strong and clever and adaptable, too. The Doctor needs extraordinary people and Rose is extraordinary. Plus, their relationship is a positive one; they adore each other.

This is the main reason Clark/Lana doesn’t work for me (except for very early S1; like the episode where they’re screaming on the football field together, that was nice); their relationship isn’t positive. They aren’t good for each other (though, admittedly, on SV no-one is good for anyone… except maybe Martha for Lionel and, um, ew), and because we are what we are We The Audience tend to blame Lana for that. I mean, I like Lana but I don’t like her with Clark and any relationship I don’t like I don’t want to see take up 99% of my screen time.

Anyway, the point of this was for me to point out how someone can be a Clex fan and also enjoy [the Clana-like] Doctor/Rose. Nutshell: Because the context just isn’t the same.


While I’m on the subject of TV, this is the paragraph where I talk about Dexter. I think I like it; ask me again in a couple more weeks.

I was, however, interested to note the extensive first person narration. randomredux, what did I always tell you about anti-heroes and first person narration? Heh. (Also: Unreliable narrator. Rah!)

  1. I should point out here that I haven’t yet seen S4. It’s entirely possible that I may, indeed, reconsider my opinion of Rose in light of her no longer being The Sole Companion but, well, ask me again in a few months. ^

951 words posted 787 days ago at 11:27 pm.

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8 Comments

  1. 787 days ago
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    Robbie

    I don’t watch any of the shows you reference in this post, but it was still interesting and mildly informative.

    For me, a good example of a protagonist show (that I watch) would be Samantha Who?, I can’t really think of a buddy show though. Ensemble shows are a little more tough, because many of them pitch one person as the “main” character (Gray’s Anatomy) or are true ensemble shows (Desperate Housewives). Again, this is just from shows I watch and thus have experience with. Then there’s Queer As Folk, which is an ensemble show, but all the characters (starting around season 2 or three) are paired off into buddies with their own vaguely intertwined plotlines.

    • 787 days ago
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      Dee

      … you don’t watch Doctor Who! Why not! :O

    • 787 days ago
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      Robbie

      Because as far as I know there is no network (that I know of or have access to) that broadcasts BBC shows. There is the BBC network, but that’s like 30 extra a month -_-

      • 787 days ago
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        Dee

        … you pay for TV? I thought that’s why God invented BitTorrent. :P

  2. 787 days ago
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    Margot

    I’ve watched seasons 5 – 7 of Smallville (I skipped the earlier seasons ’cause I was already fairly familiar with what happened and I felt the high school years were a lot slower and less interesting than the later stuff) and it’s definitely an ensemble show by that point. Characters come and go and relationships change and it starts to focus on individual characters stories that don’t always have to do with Clark. One thing that doesn’t change though is the crappy writing. And the fact that Tom Welling can’t act. That’s what happens when you cast a bunch of models instead of actors.

    • 787 days ago
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      Dee

      Chloe knows about Clark by then, doesn’t she?

      I think that’s one of my main problems with the early seasons; the show sets itself up with a Power Trio, then never follows through on that. It leaves Clark really (a-har) alienated from everybody, which is why parts of it feel like a solo show and why I think it doesn’t “work” whereas something like Buffy does.

      The characters just… don’t feel connected to me in SV. They’re just like this group of kids who have Drama with each other, but I never really feel the “friend” vibe there. :

      And the fact that Tom Welling can’t act.

      I dunno. He’s got the whole “subtext-laden gaze at Lex” expression down pretty pat…

    • 787 days ago
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      Margot

      Yeah she does… and so much more happens by then, but I don’t want to ruin anything for you. Thinking back on what I’ve seen (I watched the show a while ago now), I can’t really remember if that friendly feeling between everybody becomes any more apparent… I know Chloe maintains the ever concerned alien-harborer thing, but she’s that only person I can think of that seems to really care about anybody (although we know everybody is supposed to care about everybody else, nobody else shows it quite like her).

      All the lines/scenes that are supposed to display affection has actors that can’t emote properly. Like Tom Welling. Haha, there are some scenes in the latest season where there needs to be some serious emotional acting and he almost pulled it off once which really surprised me, but still missed the mark. Glaring seems to be his forte.

      • 787 days ago
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        Dee

        Heh. My primary exposure to SV is via the medium of Clex slash, so don’t worry about spoilers; I know a lot more plot than I’ve seen (though with occasionally holes where I’ve mentally removed the pr0n). :P

        All the lines/scenes that are supposed to display affection has actors that can’t emote properly.

        Thing is, I know jack about acting but quite a bit about writing and I’d be tempted to maybe shift the blame in SV more towards the writers than the actors. When the show works it works, but the scripts are generally so sloppy and the lines so trite that I think you’d have to be, like, Ian Mc-fuckin’-Kellen to pull it off convincingly. So, yeah…

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